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Hi all,
Last week, a friend of mine told me that sunscreen and moisturizer are actually unnecessary and do more harm than good. She said that they actually CAUSE skin cancer rather than prevent it, which is why so many Americans have it nowadays, even though they use sunblock or sunscreen. She also said that the chemicals used in most moisturizing creams are bad for your skin.

I always felt this way too, since the Oil of Olay moisturizing cream I put on my face feels so sticky and uncomfortable on my skin, and made my skin feel like it can't breathe. So I found it odd that so many people were recommending it, including skin care professionals. I also have started having frequent pimple outbreaks after using facial moisturizing cream. Once I stopped using facial creams, the acne stopped as well.

Gee thanks Momopi, for recommending this standard skin care regiment that caused me so many acne problems, which I didn't have before. (sarcastic tone) Thanks for believing everything the skin care industry tells us without question or critical thought. Razz. I hope that now, you realize the downsides of what you were told, and its potential harmful effects and bad chemicals.

Now let's look at some basic logic here:

- Humans have been fine without sunscreen and facial moisturizers for thousands of years, without having any skin cancer problems. So why the hell is it a necessity nowadays when it wasn't for thousands of years? This logic fallacy is huge and not addressed by the skin care industry.

- How is it that humans began having skin cancer when sunblock was invented, but they didn't have it before? That should speak volumes right there.

- Humans have evolved under the sun for millions of years, so why is the sun now a dangerous thing that you have to protect against with sunscreen? The sun is the source of life and provides vitamin D for your skin. The worse it can do to you is give you a sunburn or dehydrate you. A sunburn is like a chemical peel, and not harmful at all. Kids get it all the time. It's not lethal.

- How come the blacks in Africa who don't use sunscreen don't get skin cancer, but black Americans who do use sunscreen get skin cancer? That right there speaks volumes.

Anyway, my facial skin has been a lot better since I stopped putting moisturizing cream on it, and using organic soap without bad chemicals on it. People like Momopi would say that I was using the wrong moisturizer and that I should keep trying others until my acne outbreaks stop. But come on, get real. There are thousands of facial moisturizers out there. I can't just buy all of them and try them every week like a wild goose chase.

Besides, I don't have a dry skin problem. In fact, my face is usually oily. So what's the point of using a moisturizer anyway? Why go through all the trouble? It doesn't make sense!

I don't get why highly intelligent and educated people like Momopi lack critical thinking skills when it comes to believing whatever we are told by corrupt sources.

My friend told me that there is a conspiracy between the skin care industry that sells sunscreen and the cancer industry that profits from it. So you'd best avoid them both altogether. My intuition felt that she was right, based on my experience and gut feeling, as well as the basic logic points outlined above.

What do you all think? Have we all been duped regarding sunscreen and facial moisturizers?

Here are some articles I found that suggest that sunscreen can actually cause skin cancer and do more harm than good. One of them is even by NBC.

If you Google "moisturizers cause acne" you will get many hits as well.

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    Posted by WWu777 at 07/23/13 13:38:52

    Check this out. Even ABC news agrees and recommends facial oils instead:


    March 3, 2013

    The season for dry, flaky skin is upon us. But before you reach for that bottle of lotion, consider this: Some ingredients in moisturizers can actually make your skin drier, interfering with the barrier on your skin that prevents moisture from dissipating.

    "Skin creams can actually increase signs of aging," says David Pollock, a beauty-product developer turned consumer advocate and author of the book Just Stop the Lies! Secrets the Beauty Industry Doesn't Want You to Know. Emulsifiers, binding agents that allow oil and water to mix in moisturizers and lotions, leave a residue on the skin that disrupts your skin's lipid barrier, allowing water to evaporate from the skin faster. "You get a fast shot of moisture that eventually fades," he says. So you use more lotion, and your skin gets drier, and the cycle just continues.

    Not only does that expose you to dozens of unregulated and untested chemicals that are ingredients in lotions, but it's costing you money, too. The cure? Look no further than your kitchen cabinet. The very same oils you use for cooking are some of the best moisturizers for dry skin—much more effective than expensive lotions and creams at just pennies an ounce, says Deborah Niemann, author of the new book Ecothrifty: Cheaper, Greener Choices for a Happier, Healthier Life and the blog The Thrifty Homesteader. It's one of the most amazing beauty tricks you may have never heard about. "You can go all out and use something exotic, and it's still going to cost you pennies," she says.

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    PHOTO: Olive oil can be used as a moisturizer for dry skin.

    But not all vegetable oils are good for your skin, she warns. Some can actually dry your skin out, while others, such as canola, corn, and "vegetable" oils, are likely derived from genetically modified crops that have been sprayed with heavy doses of harmful pesticides. To keep your skin soft (and pesticide free), here are the four best moisturizers for dry skin that Niemann recommends:

    Grapeseed Oil

    A by-product of wine-making, grapeseed oil comes from the seeds of pressed grapes and, says Niemann, is reputed to work as well as over-the-counter creams that cost hundreds of dollars per bottle. Many holistic beauty care experts consider it the best oil for skin, regardless of your skin type. "It's especially good for thin skin around your eyes and neck," she says, and can even reduce fine lines. Not only that, but grapeseed oil is also high in vitamin C, which brightens your skin.

    Olive Oil

    This is a great oil if you have really dry skin—there's a reason Mediterranean women have used it as a moisturizer for centuries. It provides intense moisture, Niemann says, and the rich antioxidants that make it so good for your insides benefit your outsides, too, fighting free radicals created by exposure to sunlight.

    Sunflower Oil

    Just as good as olive oil, Niemann says, but a little less expensive. In addition to being a good moisturizer, she adds, it makes for a good massage oil because it's thinner and more slippery than some of the other cooking oils you can use. It also absorbs into the skin more quickly.

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    Posted by elfmaiden713 at 08/15/13 17:54:51

    Sunscreens and moisturizers may have carcinogenic ingredients, but sunscreens without these elements will not give you skin cancer. I want to address some problems with your "basic logic" points.

    -First of all, human beings probably did get skin cancer thousands of years ago, but they didn't know what the tumors were. My grandparents never used sunscreen but they both had melanomas that had to be surgically removed from their arms and heads. People didn't know what heart attacks were until pretty recently, but ancient humans definitely had them. The same goes for skin cancer.

    -Yes, humans evolved to be exposed to the sun, but the sun can still harm us. A lifetime of sunburns can cause skin cancer, and extreme sunburn can result in dehydration, layers of skin peeling off, and even death. Less than an hour of direct sunlight can provide enough vitamin D for the average adult.

    -The darkness of a person's skin is related to the amount of melanin their skin contains. More melanin equals darker skin. Melanin is a natural protectant and blocks some of the body's absorption of sunlight, so darker skin is naturally protected from sunburn and skin cancer. Many black Americans have mixed African, European, and native ancestries, so their skin is often lighter, containing less melanin, than black Africans, so they are more likely to get skin cancer. Furthermore, I'm sure that Africans do get skin cancer, but that information isn't published in Western periodicals.

    Please take care to protect yourself from something as preventable as skin cancer!

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    Posted by GarrettHnatiuk at 06/11/14 21:45:12

    Sunscreen is not great for you and also some people have developped allergies from them. Also it tends to give you much more confidence in how long you can stay in the sun, leading you to definitely burning and skin damage. And Skin creams may be bad for you, especially if you are having any skin conditions.

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    Posted by Jaggerware at 08/10/14 00:12:39

    I wonder if oils have the same effect as these suntan lotions you talk about. I see that ABC seems to think oils are ok. Here is another site that talks about using oils and describes how different oils have different properties:

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    Posted by jazzpollard at 12/03/14 02:04:17

    Pretty much, because you will ruin your look if you apply sunscreen over bb cream.
    And i'm not sure why you're doing this, to get a higher spf?A better option would be to squeeze out some sunscreen and mix it in with you bb cream before applying it onto your face. Read reviews of few skin brightening creams here:

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