I would like and hope that other members take a stand on this and also request HappyCow to exclude these restaurants from their listing.
Posted by kindlizard at 01/11/10 11:36:30I agree that fried frog and fish belly are way too specific and creepy. There is a line. In general I am alright w the fake "beef" or whatever in places. I don't frequent these places as much as places that create from whole veggies and grains on the spot. There are some places that do make their own seitan, which is a treat. They don't nec call it beef and broc, but sometimes they do, and sometimes its great.
Your perspective of one who has been veg your whole life is wonderful, truly, but somewhat specific or unique. I know folks who have eaten meat for fifty years and found the tool of having those foods to aid in transitioning to a plant-based diet invaluable. So I very much think there's a place for it even though it is not my personal fave.
In regards to Happycow, they are pretty good about saying mockmeats used here in the description of a cafe on the city page. I think I have seen that term used often enough that I get a general feel for what type of cafe it is.
Happy new year!
Posted by condekedar at 01/11/10 11:36:53I disagree with Pradeep. Some people don't like meat, and as such don't want foods (even if they are completely vegetarian) that reminds them of meat.
But many of us (myself included) are vegan not because we didn't like the taste of meat or milk/dairy products, but because we disapprove of the exploitation of animals and the inherent cruelty involved.
As such, I have no problems eating mockmeats, and I usually enjoy them. Similarly, I have no problems with "milk" made of soy or rice or nuts. No animals are harmed or used and as such these products are to be supported, in my opinion.
These products also make it easier for heavy meat eaters to transition into vegetarian and vegan ways of eating.
That said, I understand Pradeep's concerns. My mother is an Indian lacto-vegetarian and she doesn't like the idea of mockmeats and won't eat them. But she has a personal preference to avoid these products, based more on notions of personal "purity" (coming from her Hindu beliefs), than anything having to do with animal cruelty.
As such, if you don't like mockmeats, don't eat them or order some other dishes on the menu. At least mockmeats are still vegetarian, and often times vegan.
Posted by AndyT at 07/06/10 11:32:02I also disagree with Pradeep.
Although I do NOT want to eat mock meats (to be honest, the taste freaks me out, even if I know that they are made from vegetables), but they do represent a valid and viable option for many vegetarians.