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"I'm feeling good today."

She would feel 1,000% better eating plants! ! !


"I need your help on Tuesday," she told one family as she mingled with voters at Miss Katie's diner and sat down for a lunch of corned beef hash and eggs. Asked what she thought her chances were in the election, she said, "I'm feeling good today."

She later sampled chips with mole sauce and bought some red jalapeno peppers -- one of her favorite foods -- at the El Rey supermarket. Clinton is trying to solidify the strong support she has had among Hispanic voters.


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    Posted by Tatiana at 02/18/08 13:47:53

    haha, nice thread! I've been registered Green party since I was 18.

    John McCain sure must be constipated a lot, huh?

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    Posted by Rafael at 02/17/08 22:18:32

    Along with the animal mass murderer /Iraqi killer Tony Blair, Hilary may have eaten "Peter Rabbit" & "Bugs Bunny" also.


    Pont de la Tour: On the Thames near Tower Bridge this restaurant is closer to the City than to Westminster which is perhaps why Mr Blair likes it so much. He and Cherie took Bill and Hilary Clinton to lunch to impress them with Cool Britannia.

    Typical customers: Overpaid investment bankers.

    Typical dish: roast rabbit wrapped in herbs and pancetta with girolles

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 02/17/08 22:33:30

    Who is going to be the next President of the "serial killer nation"?


    Hilary Clinton - eats pretty much anything dead - "I like nearly everything. I don't like, you know, things that are still alive."

    Mike "Jesus Boy" Huckabee - skip's Genesis when he reads his bible - "God's recommended diet" ain't for Mike - he likes to cook "Rib-eye steak on the grill"

    John McCain - who used to spend his time massacring villagers in Viet Nam - likes baby back ribs - "I eat almost everything. Sometimes I don't do too well with vegetables."

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 02/18/08 21:47:45

    Benjamin Franklin, American statesman, inventor, (1706-1790):

    "My refusing to eat meat occasioned inconveniency, and I have been frequently chided for my singularity. But my light repast allows for greater progress, for greater clearness of head and quicker comprehension."

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 02/19/08 08:55:20

    Oops - missed out an "L" - the lady likes her "L".

    Her food choices are especially "L"-ish.

    "Presidential Sh&t" must stink!

    The New York Times
    Published: February 2, 1993

    For the governors' dinner, Mrs. Clinton's social secretary, Ann Stock, consulted with the White House executive chef, Pierre Chambrin, and three restaurant chefs known for their American cooking to come up with a menu. The final result was all-American. To start, there was smoked marinated shrimp with mango horseradish chutney, roast tenderloin of beef, baby vegtables in a zucchini basket and Yukon Gold potatoes with Vidalia onions.

    These were followed by a salad of winter greens with a hazelnut dressing and goat cheese from Massachusetts. The dessert was an apple sherbet terrine with Applejack mousse and hot cider sauce. The wines came from Virginia, California and Oregon. Seeking Good Ideas

    The chefs who were consulted were Anne Rosenzweig of Arcadia and Larry Forgione of An American Place, both in Manhattan, and John Sneddon of Rockland's Barbecue and Grilling Company in Washington.

    "We're trying to get a kitchen cabinet, so to speak, of people who will advise us about new menus, new ideas," Mrs. Clinton said. "It will keep us up to date about what a lot of American chefs are doing around the country. Asking people for their advice, whether it's about policy or food, is a way to give even more people a feeling of inclusion. And you get good ideas."

    In December, a group of American chefs led by Alice Waters, the owner of Chez Panisse in Berkeley, Calif., sent a letter to the Clintons urging them to appoint a White House chef who would promote American cooking, emphasizing local ingredients and organic food.

    Mrs. Clinton said she agreed with many of Ms. Waters's ideas. "I think she's been a breakthrough figure in American cuisine, in the kind of food she's prepared and in the kind of positions she's taken," she said. "I think what she says makes a lot of sense."


    Alice Waters "Chez Panisse" is way beyond gross -

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    Posted by kindlizard at 02/29/08 02:18:07

    what is on obama's plate? i'm undecided...

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 02/29/08 21:03:56

    Obama - also heavily "animal unfriendly" -

    Killing his way across America to get votes!


    NORTH CONWAY, N.H. — A busload of reporters and TV cameras awaits Barack Obama as he steps forward, notes in hand, and begins speaking in his sonorous baritone.

    Chicken fingers, he says. Cheeseburgers. Barbecued ribs. Baked scallops. Meatloaf.

    His words are greeted with utmost seriousness. Reporters scribble notes as the White House hopeful stands in the parking lot of the Wild Boar Tavern, reading the evening's dinner menu and fielding questions about who aboard his campaign RV will enjoy which takeout entree.

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    Posted by mothersson2002 at 03/01/08 11:59:14

    Barack Obama did utter thislink recently'"I think how we treat our animals reflects how we treat each other, and it's very important that we have a president who is mindful of the cruelty that is perpetrated on animals."' ( no he's not currently a vegetarian but I appreciate that such thinking as a step in the right direction.

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    Posted by Ariel NYC at 03/16/08 02:00:10

    Oh, and like BO doesn't devour animal cadavers amongst his supporters crowding round the chicken 'n ribs tables put up at his appearances, not to mention the hot dogs (and do they come from cows, or dogs?).

    Anyway, Chelsea (Clinton) is quoted as supporting vegetarianism, maybe she is one. Hilary's Hispanic voters would never understand Hilary's not eating meat, if she didn't do it with them, you can be sure.

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    Posted by Xzigalia at 03/17/08 18:56:57

    I think if you're going to criticise your politicians on their diet whether they choose to eat meat or not is less important than if they're giving the message that it's ok to abuse animals.
    And you don't have to skip Genesis to eat meat, the garden of Eden was in a perfect world where there was no death. Jesus ate meat.

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    Posted by kindlizard at 03/17/08 21:37:23

    Thats right. It wasn't construed as kosher until after the flood. BUT, construed is the key word, depending on the translation, it still obviously ain't right. I actually can't see how it could be read to be seen as right.

    If Jesus was eating meat, than he too was barbaric. Give the man a carrot for Christ's sake!

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    Posted by kindlizard at 03/17/08 21:42:24

    I think Kucinich (sp?) would have been cool as a vegan, but he had to talk about aliens and stuff, that only the extreme left can really get into. Maybe I should write him in anyway, if I learn how to spell his name.

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 03/18/08 01:59:57

    Wow!.We have another "meaty" in our midst - Xzigalia!
    "Kill / eat animals for Jesus"!
    Leave the US guys - come to China - behave reasonably politely & you will experience much more freedom & great veggy food (you will have to learn to avoid the MSG though kindlizard)!
    Supporters of the Dalai "Veal-y" Llama can go to Taiwan - at least for a while.
    The US "extreme right" talk about aliens also - they pretended that they went to the moon a few years back!

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    Posted by kindlizard at 03/19/08 18:32:31

    Really!? Dalai Lama eats veal??? I had no idea. I thought he'd be strict veg....

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 03/24/08 00:00:09

    Not quite a "living god" - better described as "living dead" - he is fully addicted to munching on blo@dy flesh.
    My few Tibetan friends are happy to be rid of him & are angry about his incessant politicking - for sure all of China suffered horribly in the 60's & 70's - now however they are very free to do business / travel freely.
    Forget the Hollywood "B.S." of movies such as "Seven Years in Tibet" and "Kundun" & the screamings of the likes of Richard "Idiot Boy" Gere.
    Under the previous "living god's" the Tibetan people lived & starved as serf's / slaves.
    "Actually the only reason Tibet's serfdom lasted into the 20th century in the first place is that the Yuan, Ming, and Ching imperial courts did in fact grant Tibet the very autonomy the Dalai Lama is currently demanding. It is far more than they should have granted from a humanitarian perspective. Otherwise Lhasa's inhumane serfdom, which did not exist in any other region of China, would have been abolished centuries ago. Chalk it up to previous emperors' ho-hum attitude. Out of sight, out of mind.
    Ironically, despite their brutality, the commies showed more concern. In retrospect they probably wish they hadn't, with all the flak they've taken. If only they had let sleeping dogs lie, Tibet's serf-owning aristocracy would have felt far less pressure to secede from China. Chalk that up to the communists' obssessive egalitarianism. The exploitive inequality of serfdom really stuck in their craw.
    The Dalai Lama himself recently admitted that he only began advocating democracy for Tibet belatedly, in 1964, five years into exile. He could hardly deny it; the facts are on the record. By then Tibetan serfdom was already a way of life "gone with the wind," abolished by Beijing. By then he had nothing to lose, and plenty to gain propaganda-wise by playing the "democracy" card. It never ceases to amaze me how his acolytes glide right past this embarassingly inconvenient fact."

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    Posted by kindlizard at 03/24/08 00:45:37

    Well I know there is a lot of spin around the politics of the man. However, that aside, I have to say I am more than shocked that veal is what he called for. Disappointed too. I mean, brutal enough to eat animals, but veal?! Outrageous.... I had to check to make sure it wasn't written by the Onion. I figured dhal bat.

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    Posted by auungbong at 03/25/08 23:27:56

    I hope many understand that what is written for the mass media to view is not necessarily always true.

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    Posted by Stig at 03/26/08 01:17:15

    Ha Ha - a conspiracy theory to expand on! - however there are numerous posts which are so happy about him being a "meat muncher" - even one of his own books states it I remember - I will search out the reference - he is a twisted individual!

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 03/26/08 03:01:56

    Excerpt -

    "In the mid 1960s, the Dalai Lama was impressed by ethically vegetarian Indian monks and adopted a vegetarian diet for about a year and a half. Apparently he consumed primarily nuts and milk. Unfortunately, he contracted Hepatitis B and his liver was seriously damaged. For health reasons, he was advised by his personal physicians to consume meat."

    From Eileen Weintraub - a DL "supporter" -

    Excerpt - "In his 1995 Seattle public talk, His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, said he tried being a vegetarian all the time but found it too difficult. At the time of the talk he said he eats meat every other day. This makes him a vegetarian six months of the year. By making an example of cutting his meat consumption in half, he is trying to gently influence his followers. It should be noted that this recommendation received little applause from the audience."

    Bogus physicians - time for a "2nd opinion......" - nuts & milk - an insane diet - of course that massive amount of fats will damage your liver! ! !

    What do you say Tatania? ? ? ?

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    Posted by Tatiana at 03/26/08 03:48:39

    I see so many cases of people being told they need to eat this and that by their doctors (or nurses, etc). There are a lot of great doctors out there, but becoming a doctor does not always involve learning much, if anything, about nutrition. In most medical programs, if nutrition is even offered, it is an elective course. Just being a medical doctor does not guarantee a good nutritional knowledge base. There are however a lot of great doctors out there who do know a lot about nutrition, but they get this education normally outside of their regular medical school. When it comes to medical in general, I recommend if you want a good answer, always go to the specialist for the best answers. That's why there are so many specialties in medicine, one person cannot know everything!

    Of course, it's also important to keep in mind that this was in the 1960's. Medicine, nutrition included, has come a very long way since then.

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 07/01/08 06:47:18

    A vegan President - Dr. Janez Drnovšek - exczrpt taken from here -

    +Drnovsek says that his conversion from conventional politician into "Slovenia's Gandhi" – as one commentator has dubbed him – was gradual, and he adopted a low profile as he fought his illness. He abandoned conventional medicine because his doctors told him that they could not cure him. He dabbled with Indian and Chinese healers. He gave up meat, dairy products and alcohol in favour of organic vegetables and home-baked bread. He fasted for days at a time. He also sought to nourish his soul, leaving Ljubljana for a remote home set in beautiful beech forests south of the Slovenian capital. He lives there alone, reading and writing, without so much as a television for company since his dog died. He says modern man has lost contact with nature, but it is "very beneficial for health, for body but also for soul . . . Somehow we can purify ourselves of all negativities that are concentrated in towns and urban centres where there is all this activity and stress."+
    A lacto-veggy President -

    Profile of India's President: APJ Abdul Kalam

    Taken from here -
    On a lighter note, Kalam is unmarried, and a teetotaller and vegetarian. He also plays the Veena and has an appreciation for Tamil poetry. He often quotes the famous Tamil poets Bharatidasana and Subramania Bharatiyar ("who died in 1939 at the age of 35, killed by an elephant while giving it a coconut"). In one recent Parliamentary speech, I saw a quote from the great Bhatki/Sufi mystic Kabir: "Kaal Kare So Aaj Kar, Aaj Kare So Ab" ("What you want to do tomorrow do it today, and what you want to do today do it now").

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    Posted by JohnnySensible at 07/01/08 06:55:54

    Note - Dr. Janez Drnovšek passed away earlier this year -

    He worked to "raise human consciousness and make the world a better place".

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