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BUSTED! Top Vegan Nutrition Myths Great article today on the Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nil-zacharias/vegan-nutrition-myths_b_949288.html Gloria Steinem summed up one of the challenges of life very well when she said, "The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn." This quote rings especially true when it comes to what we choose to eat. Our food choices are influenced by a range of factors that make it almost impossible to entertain change. Growing up, I was told that I needed to consume dairy for calcium, eat meat to get strong and fish to get smart. Imagining food without animal products on my plate seemed almost unimaginable. However, I always felt a sense of nagging unease about my food choices -- what if everything I knew about food and nutrition was wrong? What if I truly had no valid justifications for choosing to consume animal products? What began as a path of unlearning -- about taste, tradition and nutrition -- ultimately culminated in me choosing a vegan lifestyle. But unlearning in the age of information means having to sift through an avalanche of Internet articles discussing conflicting scientific reports and marketing propaganda (often indistinguishable from each other) that are largely fueled by billion dollar industries whose bottom lines depend on our uninformed food choices. Some anti-vegan rhetoric is delivered with so much conviction that, at times, I still have difficulty separating fact from fiction. The problem, however, is that the longer you let myths go unchallenged, the greater is their ability to masquerade as truths. So, I decided to put my mind (and hopefully the minds of many others) at ease by reaching out to One Green Planet's expert community and getting their input on the top vegan nutrition myths. This is what I uncovered in my discussions with some prominent voices in the plant-based nutrition space: 1. Is it true that plant protein is inherently inferior to animal protein? Brenda Davis, RD and co-author of "Becoming Raw": In reality, people have no greater need for animal protein than do gorillas or elephants, both of whom have far bigger muscles than we do, yet are plant eaters. It comes as a surprise for people to learn that essential amino acids are made by plants, not by animals. We can get them from animals, but somewhere along the food chain they originally came from plants. Generally, if vegans eat a variety of plant foods (legumes, nuts, seeds, vegetables, fruits and grains) and consume sufficient calories, protein needs will be met. However, if protein intakes are marginal, legumes become especially important. 2. Do I need calcium from dairy products to maintain strong bones? Joseph Keon, nutritionist and author of "Whitewash: The Disturbing Truth about Cow's Milk and Your Health": Milk offers no guarantee of protection from bone fracture while at the same time burdens the body with additional saturated fat and cholesterol, hormones and growth factors and, frequently, antibiotic residues. Millions of people the world over maintain fracture-resistant bones into their seventh and even eighth decade of life by consuming calcium largely from plant sources. The calcium we need may be easily obtained from leafy greens, vegetables, fruits, legumes and some nuts and seeds. 3. Should I be worried about B12 deficiency? Vesanto Melina, RD and co-author of "Becoming Raw": B12 originates from bacteria, not animal products. The reason this nutrient cannot be obtained from plant-foods is because of our sanitary methods of food production. In contrast, meat eaters obtain vitamin B12 that is produced by bacteria present in the flesh of the animals. This lack in sanitary plant foods does not mean that all vegans are deficient in this nutrient, because they can easily obtain the recommended levels of B12 via foods that are fortified with B12 (non-dairy milks, soyfoods, veggie "meats" and breakfast cereals) or via B12 supplements. In fact, all people over the age of 50, on any diet, are advised to use fortified foods or supplements as their B12 sources, as these forms are better absorbed by many seniors than the B12 from animal products. Many seniors develop deficiency of vitamin B12 due to diminished intestinal absorption. Like people on any diet, vegans simply need to make sure they have a reliable source of this essential nutrient. 4. Can I get adequate amounts of Omega-3 fats without consuming fish oil? Ginny Messina, MPH, RD and co-author of "Vegan for Life": Vegans aren't at higher risk for heart disease than people who eat fish, but many experts suggest erring on the side of a little insurance by supplementing, especially for those who suffer from depression. Vegans who want to include DHA and EPA in their diets can get it the same way fish do, which is from algae. In fact, from an environmental perspective, it makes sense for everyone to choose algae-derived supplements over fish oil. 5. As a vegan, don't I have to consume too much soy to meet my nutritional needs? Lauri Boone, RD and raw food nutritionist: You don't need to fill your plate with tofu or other soyfoods for your diet to be nutritionally complete. Soyfoods -- which include tofu, tempeh, edamame, and soymilk, among others -- certainly provide a simple way for vegans to meet their protein needs. But you can easily obtain all of the essential amino acids -- along with fiber, antioxidants, minerals and phytochemicals -- your body needs by eating a variety of grains and legumes each day. Add to that a few servings of nuts and seeds and plenty of fresh vegetables, and you will begin to see how easy it is to get all of the nutrients your body needs -- with or without soy. However, if you are going to consume soy, choose organic soyfoods to ensure that the soy you consume is not genetically modified and is not grown using pesticides, herbicides or other chemicals. 6. While vegan diets may be okay for adults, aren't they unsafe for infants and children? Reed Mangels, PhD, RD, LDN and co-author of "Simply Vegan": Babies and children grow and develop normally on vegan diets and can have significant health advantages -- vegan children often eat more fruits and vegetables, are typically leaner and don't develop a taste for meat, dairy products and eggs -- foods that are linked to health problems later in life. As all parents should know, it is important to give children the nutrients they need. For parents of young vegans, this means making sure that infants' and children's diets have good sources of vitamin B12, iron, zinc, calcium, vitamin D, protein and enough calories to support growth. To round up my discussion on vegan nutrition, I chatted with Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Jacob Gould Schurman Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University, co-author of the best-selling book, "The China Study" and most recently featured in the documentary "Forks over Knives" about his No. 1 tip for maintaining good health and preventing disease. According to him, "The consumption of whole plant-based foods is the best strategy for health maintenance and disease prevention. Wholeness means foods having the natural proportions of nutrients and nutrient-like chemicals. As a consequence, the whole effect is greater than the sum of its parts -- thus allowing for the countless natural biological interactions to take place." So there you have it: not only is a plant-based (vegan) diet not restrictive in terms of providing us with adequate nutrition, but if we also focus on a diet rich in whole plant-based foods, getting the right nutrients and maintaining good health should be the least of our concerns! Thanks to the great work of these experts, it turns out the unlearning curve for vegan nutrition is no longer as steep and treacherous as it was in the past. "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." -- Galileo Galilei One Green Planet is an online destination for the ecologically ethical generation. We deliver insights into the world of ecology, environment and vegan living. To find out more about us, visit One Green Planet and join our growing community on Facebook and Twitter. If you are a business or expert interested in becoming a contributor, supporter or collaborating with our independently-run platform, please contact us. From: http://www.onegreenplanet.org Post Date: 10/23/11, Replies: 5
Calcium? Lately my mother-in-law (who broke her wrist and discovered she has low bone density) has been laying it on thick about how a vegan diet will make me more susceptible to osteoporosis. I will likely start taking a supplement because I am a 30 year old woman and it certainly can't hurt me to have more calcium. But I'm just wondering what others thoughts are on this? Thanks everyone! Post Date: 11/06/15, Replies: 2
Can anyone help? I am sorry if anyone takes offense to this, but i am in highschool right now and i am in forensics, which deals with performance, and i am in the event of oratory to persaude people to become vegan. ( I am a vegan) and i know many facts, but b/c i've grown up in a city with no other veg. people i dont have any general information. for the begging of my speech i need an attention getter, and instead of just listing illnesses, i would really like to have a health story that involves somebody who had to go vegan b/c of their health, so if anyone has any suggestions i would be very greatful. Post Date: 09/15/08, Replies: 2
Can diet prevent cataracts? Hi all, Cataracts are causing significant changes in my vision and my ability to function. I'm planning to get the cataract laser surgery done from See by Intravision in Oakville(seebyiv.com/eye-conditions/cataract/ ). But I recently read an article telling that vegan diets can reduce the risk of cataracts. Has anyone experienced it? Please share your suggestions. Post Date: 10/21/15, Replies: 2
Can eating a veggie diet help RA symptoms? Hi! I'm a new vegetarian & Happy Cow member who has mild to moderate Rheumatoid Arthritis. Has anyone experienced (or heard of) any positive effects of a vegetarian/vegan diet on RA/RA symptoms? Thanks! Post Date: 03/25/12, Replies: 4
Cancer The Shocking Truth 1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion.When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size. 2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime. 3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumours. 4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors. 5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements will strengthen the immune system. 6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow,gastro-intestinaltract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc. 7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs. 8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumour size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumour destruction. 9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications. 10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites. 11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply. CANCER CELLS FEED ON: a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Mänuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts.Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea salt. b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened Soya milk cancer cells are being starved. c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and Meat also contains live stock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites,which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer. d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds,nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including beansprouts)and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C). e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties. Water-best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it. 12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines become putrefied and leads to more toxic build-up. 13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells. 14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence,Essiac,anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells. 15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor. Anger,unforgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life. 16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells. (PLEASE FORWARD IT TO PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT) Source:www.charityadvantage.com/pcbaptistorg/CancerUpdatefromJohnsHopkins.doc Post Date: 07/06/09, Replies: 4
Cheap Veg Vitamins In Tesco Just thought I'd post this in case it's useful for anyone else in the UK who takes vitamins - I found today that Tesco are selling multivitamins + iron and multivitamins + minerals that are very cheap (about 85p for 30 or 60 depending which you get) - they aren't labelled as "Vegetarian Multivitamins" - but in small print they say "suitable for vegetarians". Last time I looked at multivitamins that were suitable for vegatarians (ie. the ingredients were all vegetarian, as opposed to being vitamins aimed at vegetarians), the only options seemed to be some quite expensive sanatogen ones. Post Date: 03/05/08, Replies: 0
Cholesterol lowering questions Hi all, I am new to this forum and would like some advice or personal experiences regarding your cholesterol levels. I have been vegan for just about three months, and my last cholesterol was still a bit high (215). I do have a family disposition to genetically high cholesterol, but I asked my primary care provider for another three months on a vegan diet before re-testing. I would rather not go on statins if I don't have to. So my question for the forum is for those who have had cholesterol issues: does the vegan diet actually lower your cholesterol? I am a REALLY good cook, I have tackled the creativity you can have while making wonderful vegan meals: but is there some other whole-food strategies I can add to my diet that might help? About me:I get moderate exercise (I ride my bike/walk) every day weather permitting, as don't own a car. So I am in pretty good physical shape. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Post Date: 11/30/16, Replies: 8
Colon Cleansing Question. I am new to a vegetarian diet....how much rotten meat may i expect to eliminate? And does the ingestion of the occasional insect by accident upset the karma? Post Date: 08/30/13, Replies: 5
Concerns about estrogen rumours I'll be frank; while I've tried some of my own research, all I've found are completely varied responses on my concerns with soy. From nutritionists to doctors to magazines, everyone seems to have a different take. I'm concerned with rumours(from both vegan and carnivorous sides) that soy and tofu have high levels of estrogen, which could pose potential health problems to whoever eats them. Does anyone have any information on this? I'll admit I'm suspicious this is just something cooked up by meat/dairy industries, but I can't help but be concerned. Any information would be greatly appreciated! -Alexandrs Post Date: 08/13/08, Replies: 27
Confused and Bewildered and discouraged I was going to start my first topic by writting "WTF", but wanted to be more reader friendly. Lol Anyway, just started eating primarily vegggie for 5 weeks. Juicing kale, granny apples, carrots, cucumbers and ginger for lunch (only) for past 5 weeks and but have not lost a single pound and my belly is still big, or maybe bigger! WTH (heck)! I change to monk fruit from sugar; been drinking green tea w/ lemon only, 1x per day; stopped eating red meat for 3 weeks straight; I even stopped eating bagels! In general, I've been eating healthier and expected to lose a lot of weight and belly by now. FYI, the juicing is without the pulp and not organic. I figured I still would have lost some weight regardless. Any thoughts what I may be doing wrong? Post Date: 06/18/14, Replies: 4
Consumption Of Fruit Hi everyone, I am a newbie to the vegan lifestyle. I am borderline diabetic, and I was wondering if the increase of fruit in my diet since transitioning to the vegan lifestyle will have a negative impact on my diabetes, due to the fact that fruit has natural sugars versus processed sugars. Any help with this is always appreciated and thanks in advance for replies. Post Date: 11/03/15, Replies: 8
Crazy New Vegan Symptoms? Hi! I went vegan a week ago at the ripe old age of 43, and all of the sudden my body is doing some drastically different things....strange energy levels, I'm in the bathroom all the time, weight redistributing itself on my body, super vivid dreams, strange cravings and a huge decrease in appetite, hot and cold flashes....did you have any strange symptoms at first? How long did they last? Thanks for making a new vegan feel better! Post Date: 12/24/15, Replies: 3
Cricket Fricassee -- The Meal Of The Futur Veggie burgers can often be a somewhat comforting dietary staple, but they may soon be of the buggy variety if scientists have their way. www.greenwala.com/community/blogs/all/1729-Cricket-Fricassee-Coming-To-A-Dinner-Plate-Near-You Please share your thoughts on whether you'd dare to venture down this alterni-protein road! Post Date: 08/25/09, Replies: 0
Dairy and breast cancer A link between dairy consumption and breast cancer? www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-171377/A-change-diet-cured-cancer.html www.rense.com/general35/av.htm Post Date: 05/16/13, Replies: 0
Diet and cataract Hi all, I’ve had problems with my eyes for the last two years(been vegan for 3 years). My eye doctor was shocked on how my diet changed the condition of my eyes. I recently read an article on the lower risk of cataract with vegan diet. I have symptoms of cataract like double vision, problem with glare during the day and I am planning to do cataract laser surgery in Evergreen eye centre, Washington. Any other evidence to support healing of poor vision through vegan diet? Please share. Post Date: 01/14/16, Replies: 0
Diet and EXERCISE Details: So being vegan is really a great building block for long term health. But as we always hear, diet is no substitute for exercise. So I'd like to start an thread asking about what you do for exercise, and if you are among those who don't exercise, for people to chime in as to what you can do to start healthily. I do a lot of hiking. I am able to do miles with elevation gain/ inclines relatively well despite a recent lapse of exercise. I also love top play bball and soccer, but I haven't played these in a while since you need to organize others more for those to play. I have friends who have a hard time to go on hikes since they are out of shape. The hikes really hurt on their inclines, whereas I can sing while going through it. Does anyone have any suggestions for those who have a hard time getting in shape? I feel fortunate I have never had bronchial issues, so asthmatics who have overcome their issue to get in shape are more than welcome to chime in. Aiming for well-rounded health... Post Date: 03/14/12, Replies: 10
Dr. McDougall's Starch Solution I started Dr. McDougall's Starch Solution plan and I lost 2.5 lbs. on the first day. I ate starches the whole weekend and stuck to the plan and gained 3 lbs! I did eat a couple of pieces of bread and some homemade rice pudding with stevia and a little regular sugar so maybe that's what caused me to gain. So, I'm going to try cutting out bread and as much sugar as I can this week and see how it goes. If anyone else has done this diet and lost weight, I'd be happy to hear any pointers. Post Date: 01/26/13, Replies: 1
ED Vegan Recovery Advice Hello everyone, I am 5' 10" and 115 pounds. I am happy at my weight I am active and not frail but I am constantly being told I need to eat more. I have had a few problems with anorexia but now I am eating consistently... just small portions. I usually eat around 680 cals. and I can't even imagine being able to consume 1500 cals. What vegan foods/simple recipes are specifically high in complex proteins and calories while not being a large meal? I'd love to hear your advice, I know I need to change so please don't criticize me. 🙂 Post Date: 01/23/17, Replies: 1
Endometriosis and other lady issues Hi there, Ive recently gone vegan for both health and ethical reasons. I suffer with really bad endometriosis and also have had a severe ovarian cyst which ended up with me having 2 surgeries this year one in January and one in April. I decided to go vegan firstly in the hope that it would help balance my hormones but also in my research I watched some documentaries - Vegucated, food inc and a few others which really opened my eyes and now I couldn't an animal product again. So what I'm asking is has anybody else gone vegan to help with endometriosis? Has it helped? Ive heard that soy messes with your hormones so should I avoid this and what can i eat as an alternative? Ive been vegan for 6 weeks now and I'm still experiencing quite bad pain, If going vegan does help balance hormones and helps endometriosis how long would it be before I feel better? Thanks Post Date: 06/28/16, Replies: 6
Expanding the Vegan Lifestyle Want to stay fit AND fab, while expressing your love for our fellow earthlings? Check out the gear at cruelty-free lifestyle & clothing company, Plant Beast Apparel. From glow-in-the-dark work out tees, to quirky quinoa references, Plant Beast Apparel has got your back when it comes to fun, vegan fashion. Also notable is that a percentage of the profits are donated to a new local rescue sanctuary each month. So, while you’re working on your gains, you could be feeding some chicks their next grains. www.plantbeastapparel.com Post Date: 08/24/16, Replies: 0
fasting for long time with no solid food hi to all..i just start fasting without food already 10 days,getting 1 glas of vegie juice(selery,bitroot leafs,wheetgrass juice orange)1 rice milk and 1 glass soy milk plus some shlorella and alot of lemon water per day..if anyone give me advice for longer fasting without damage my body..ty Post Date: 04/28/10, Replies: 22
Flatulence This topic is a little bit embarrassing. I started my vegan diet 1 1/2 year ago with a hydro-colon-therapy. And I have had no problems with digestions. A few weeks ago I recognized a lot of flatulence with bad smelling gas. Can anybody give me hints how to avoid this? Post Date: 10/21/14, Replies: 6
Food Choice Anxiety Hi everyone- over the past 8-10 I was living in SE Asia; while there I naturally eliminated most meat and dairy from my diet. I moved on to Australia and decided to keep up with most of my new food choices of no meat or dairy. I did so not so much mostly just to see how a change of diet would make me feel. I am a believe now after much research that a plant based diet is the way to live ( I knew that before but it's hard to come by sometimes). All of that being said, with the choice to go vegan not being a moral one or a strict diet I started but have rather started to adopt, I have very anxious over a lot of the food choices I start to make. At this point I eat a 90-95% percent vegan diet. I may eat a piece of fish every other week or a cookie/ slice of cake here of there. I am slowly tasting or eating foods that I haven't had in a long time to see how they taste to me now or make me feel. When I do this I feel like I'm "cheating". I feel like I have to hide if I want to eat a vegetarian pizza or a slice of pizza with meat for all that matters. I didn't wake up and decide to become vegan one day, let alone do while living in a foreign country across the world! I don't want to have a bad relationship with the food I want to or choose not to eat. I surely can't be the first person that has experienced this? It's not even so much "cravings", as I know there are great vegan subs for most foods, it's more about what I'm allowing myself to eat... and maybe why?? I'm just looking for some encouragement or advice. Thanks! Post Date: 01/30/16, Replies: 8
Food withdrawl? Hi friends, I have been a pescatarian for 2 years, vegetarian for 6 month and vegan for about a week now. I have never noticed my changing diet effecting my body, but when I cut all animal products from my diet I have been getting severe migraines with nausea and stomach cramps. I am not one to get sick very often. Could it be my body just adjusting to the changes? Any advice would be lovely. Post Date: 11/06/15, Replies: 10
Fruit and Raw Vegetable Diet I'm a newbie here at Happy Cow. Ive been on a strict diet since two weeks. Only on a fruit and raw vegetable diet. i eat oranges, apples and bananas for lunch and dinner. I just have a cup of tea in the mornings. I feel really light but am i doing the right thing to cut belly fat and get lean muscle? Post Date: 06/20/12, Replies: 8
gaining weight being vegetarian Hope you don't mind, but will copy a post I sent to my new weight loss group - sorry it's LONG: Hope there are enough fellow vegetarians/vegans to answer this. I became vegan about 8 months ago. Within 3 months, I had gained 10 lbs. and was hypothyroid (was already on meds. and had been stable for years). Yes, I relied heavily on soy for my protein. So then I switched to vegetarian so I could use dairy/eggs for my protein, as I am not such a fan of beans/legumes that I ate enough daily to suffice. In 5 months I gained another 10 pounds! I have used Loseit for a week (love it, BTW). Was under my daily calories 5 out of 7 days and have lost NOTHING. The My Nutrition section has shown that I eat a lot of (healthy) fats and (healthy) carbs. It is VERY hard to get enough protein. My husband does not share my views so, after making his meal I usually don't have time to do a decent one for me, too. I feel horrible to do so, but I am thinking of trying my old, lean meat-eating diet for a week to see if it makes a difference. I only needed to lose 5 lbs. before becoming vegan. I am 55, do take bioidentical hormones (although they may need slight adjusting), thyroid meds, and am fairly active as I have horses and dogs. Has anyone else gained weight being vegetarian? Post Date: 06/17/14, Replies: 9

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