Is it really progressive to turn one's back on G-d. Even if man created Him, man created electricity and the atom bomb and these things are very real also.

Oh, I don't turn my back on god. I constantly state what a fraud god is. Humans also created Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. I treat god pretty much the same way that I treat those other imaginary beings. The problem is that there are people who think god is real. Just because humans created the IDEA of god, doesn't mean he is REAL. That is where your logic fails. Electricity and the atom bomb are REAL things. God is not. Humans create fictional beings, like god, all the time. Its fine to treat them as fictional. The problem is when people treat them as non-fictional.



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I guess I have a real problem then, because G-d is very real to me.

I wonder, if "God" is very real to you, why you have joined the atheist vegetarian group?

"Man" also created Santa Claus, the Cheshire Cat, and Balrogs. I've seen all three of these. They entice little children in malls, they grin or roar on movie screens, they sit on shelves of toy stores in all their polyester-stuffed or plastic-molded realness. They exist! Praise the laughing fat man! Glory to the incredible disappearing feline! Hosanna to the molten, whip-cracking dragon thingy!

Man didn't "create" electricity, he discovered it.

A bizarre argument for the existence of god, actually.



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Hi ThunderHeart,
It sounds like there is no denying that God is very real to you. Yet you joined the atheist/agnostic group so I'm betting you still have some questions. I wonder if something isn't getting lost in translation. For example, when u say God is real ...what is God to you? For some people the notion of God simply means the universe (they believe in a universal force), or believing in the forces of good and evil with no singular supreme being, or to some people God can mean believing in nature. For more agnostic types, it means believing that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God and that's not a good thing or a bad thing, it just is. I think a good starting point would be to ask yourself....to you personally, what is God?

Also, you talk about "turning one's back on God." What does that mean to you?

Well if god is real to you that's cool and you feel compelled to tell atheists then you must be a Christian and you must put a lot of stock in the Holy Bible. Now while it seems likely that a historical figure named Jesus Christ existed what we truly know about him would have to be distorted at best due to the record keeping abilities of the time. The bible was published 300 years after the death of Christ. That would be like me talking to a grandchild about a athlete or entertainer that I think is the greatest ever and he passes my story on at least 4to5 generations and three hundred years later they are worshipping Willie Nelson and telling people you'll go to hell if you don't smoke pot.
Now that's one aspect but don't forget the book was written by people and government had to control people and what better way to get into their heads than tell them that someone is always watching and always punishing or rewarding. You don't need wealth in this life you'll get it in the next . Don't get me wrong somtimes I envy people with faith they seem happier but then again ignorance is bliss and the world is full of carnies and rubes don't be a rube.

"GOD" is great for folks who find it easier to have "faith" than to think for themselves...