Jesus's dietary status
Posted by mothersson2002 at 12/31/2007
I just heard a proclomation that "Christ was vegan" on the Go Vegan Radio show. I had heard from other sources in the past that the government covered up Jesus's vegetarianism. Have others heard of this? It makes sense that he would have been avegetarian condering "Thou shat not kill" is a commandment. It also is conceivable that the governmetn and meat/fish industry would want to have a fact such as this omitted.
and the 16 April 2006 interview on go vegan radio:http://www.goveganradio.com/veg/1003/Listen_to_Past_Shows.htm
brandon casey09/04/2008 14:53:23
With the usual horrible translations of the ancient Hebrew / Aramaic.
Jesus believed in simple living and nonviolence, and felt that this was part of the law of God. Jesus was undoubtedly vegetarian, since this was the original teaching of Jewish Christianity. Jesus did not bring a new theology, but rather a radical understanding of the law. For Jesus, the law commands nonviolence; we are not to shed blood, whether the blood of humans in warfare or the blood of animals in meat consumption or animal sacrifice. Jesus risked and gave his life to disrupt the wicked and bloody animal sacrifices in the temple. But the religion of Jesus has been lost from modern Christianity.
mothersson2002 - great post - above is the full link for listening via Broadband connections.
Few people present this as well as Rynn Berry does.
Jesus's dad designed humans to live on fruit and succulent vegetables.
Questioner who goes by the name "Meateater" - Yet another sanctimonious tree-hugger with no understanding of human physiology or evolution. Look in your mouth — there are teeth that have evolved for crushing plant matter and teeth evolved for the ripping and tearing of flesh. Additionally, humans have the digestive tract of an omnivore, not a vegetarian. Say you are vegan (isn't that someone from Las Vegas?) because of moral issues, but don't try to defend your lifestyle choice with bad science and dubious anthropology.
Rynn's response - To say that humans have the anatomical structure of an omnivore is an egregiously inaccurate statement. The great taxonomist Carolus Linnaeus, (1707-1778), a Swedish naturalist and botanist who established the modern scientific method of classifying plants and animals, classified humans not as carnivores, not as omnivores, nor even as herbivores, but as frugivores. Linnaeus writes: "Man's structure, internal and external compared with that of the other animals, shows that fruit and succulent vegetables are his natural food."
brandon casey09/04/2008 17:00:45
it seems that the ideal thing to be is a vegan because originally everyone was vegan and verses that describe the kingdom of God as a place where the lion and the lamb lay down together and dont harm each other. after the flood and the world changed and some people think that this change made people need the protein in meat more so God permited the consumption of meat. But still even if God allows me to eat meat i do not want to because i love Gods creation too much to do so.
So it may not be a matter of salvation so either lifestyle could be fine. But the meat industry of today is much different then in the time of jesus. And God appointed dominion to us over animals and all creation so we should protect it and respect it. The meat industry and similar industries of today i think do not respect or protect Gods creation. So I think every Christian or believer in God should not support these industries.
"Then I heard a voice telling me, `Get up, Kefa. Kill and eat.' "I replied, `Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.' "The voice spoke from heaven a second time, `Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.'" Acts 11:7-8
I guess that the answer it to listen to "voices" selectively - or we could be eating even crazier stuff!
Acts 11:7 is certainly the "meat addicts" favorite verse - here is another "take" on it -
What about the passage in which Peter is instructed to "kill and eat" all creatures (Acts 10:13, 11:7)?
Many Christians, reading on, find that this passage is not a literal instruction to consume flesh. Peter, pondering this vision's meaning, concluded, "God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean" (Acts 10:28). However one interprets this passage, it does not require that we consume meat today.
If Jesus does visit Planet Earth again he will surely enjoy browsing HappyCow to find good places to eat - there must be 600 plus 100% vegan places listed now.
Many more needed - please make a point of adding any missing ones that you are aware of / new venues as they open .......
And if Jesus really was a vegetarian, why do so many people eat turkey or beef on Christmas and Easter? They even make a point of eating fish on Good Friday!
Nut-roasts are actually relatively new.
Jesus: No meat
Buddha: No food
Rama: Only mushrooms
Zoroaster: [edited by staff-see terms]
So you see, all of the world's major religious figure-heads were vegans, which shows us that they were also [edited by staff-see terms]. Do the math
When Jesus fed the multitudes loaves and fishes according to the Bible he magically multiplied already dead fish rather than killing more. Could this be history's first instance of faux meat?
One thing is clear. The way factory farms treat animals violates biblical teachings as does the way animal agriculture damages the earth and meat damages our bodies (which we're supposed to treat like temples). And the world's hungry are unable to afford the high cost of food inflated by the meat industry.
Dominion over animals does not mean license to treat cruelly. It means we are to care for animals the way God cares for us. Old Testament prophets promise the day will come when all creatures will once again live together in peace. Considering the state of the world now seems like a good time to start.
The temple marketplace grew up around the business of animal sacrifices, something Jesus opposed. His last act for which he was willing to die for was to destroy the marketplace. An animal rights act? But whether Jesus ate a plant-based diet or not, going vegan is certainly in line with the teachings of compassion found in all the major religions.
I know many meat eaters try to justify their cruel life style of consuming farm animal flesh by pointing to verse you were speaking about but animals Peter saw represent'Gentiles'.
LOVE is the fulfilling of the Law.
Former President Bill Clinton is a good example of this. His skin looked wrinkled and ashen, he had three heart attacks and had shunts put in his heart while on an animal based diet. He became a vegan and now his skin glows pink with health and most of his wrinkles are gone. He says outright that his diet was killing him like so many other people on an animal based diet. He says he feels great now with lots of energy. If an animal based diet was healthy then people who eat an animal based diet would be perfectly healthy and they are not. In fact, science proves that the major killers of humans such as heart disease, stroke and cancer trace back to a high animal product diet.
Happy wild horse04/06/2014 17:34:15
In the fiction book Jesus cooks some of the fish along with some bread, and invites the disciples to join him to eat breakfast. That doesn't sound like they let the fish go afterwards. It sounds like Jesus ate some of the fish. In the fiction book the fictional character Jesus is in: Jesus is not vegan or vegetarian.
Happy wild horse04/07/2014 03:37:12