Going OFF the Vegetarian Diet
Posted by The Veggie Cook at 07/31/2007
In the past years I've come across vegetarians and vegans who sad they "had to get off the vegetarian diet for health reasons." Has any one of you out there heard of this?
Personally, I do believe that you have to listen to your body and feel what it wants. Although I advocate a vegetarian diet (for compassion towards the animals, for the sake of the environment, and for health reasons), I do also feel that not everyone can thrive on a vegetarian or vegan diet. But then again, there are MANY who thrive on a veggie diet.
What do you guys think?
Interesting story - A friend had experimented with the various diets for many years, from first being vegetarian to all vegan then to all raw then to raw including raw meats then to now eating everything except for grains.
The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' No other commandment is greater than these."
"I am well answered," replied the scribe. "You are absolutely right when you say that there is one God and no other God exists but him; and to love him with the whole of our hearts, the whole of our intelligence and the whole of our energy, and to love our neighbours as ourselves is infinitely more important than all these burnt-offerings and sacrifices."
Until you "love yourself" going Nazarene / Essene / Vegan (mostly raw) seems to be such a chore! Once you start to love yourself life / existence starts to be fun!
But most Christians I've encountered eat flesh meat. "Dominion" to them means having superiority and the rights to do as they like with the animals.
“See, I give you every
that is upon all the
earth, and every tree
that has seed-bearing
fruit; they shall be
yours for food”
Only mistranslations / criminal edits of the Biblical books encourage meat consumption in our times.
His "Dad" was extremely clear - Jesus Christ was extremely sensible. Putting meat in your mouth is like putting sand in your car engine - it blocks it up & causes all kinds of problems / eventual breakdown.
Meat is murder, who wants to justify that?!?!?
I have heard people being told this by family, friends, strangers, and even doctors and other health professionals. I have heard people say they were told because they are anemic or underweight or other things that they should just eat meat or in order to get better. If a well rounded vegan/vegetarian diet wasn't good for you, people couldn't thrive on it. Yes, it may look easier for many people to just say "hey, eat a burger, add some cheese", but what about some lentil stew or some nuts, those have tons of protein and calories! If they'd go see a dietitian they could VERY likely make changes without having to go off the diet. I have yet to have told any patient of mine they needed to stop being veg.
You can obtain a Vegetarian/Vegan multivitamin at almost any natural food store. I use "Vegetarian Support" made by Country Life.
I do take vegan supplements and I make a conscious effort to eat good food (only occasional vegan junkfoods)
I would die if I ate meat again, mainly from gagging on it on the way down [and severe guilt and heartache]…because that stuff isn't going in my tummy!
Gr8Vegan: Thanks for the Dr. McDougall link, I'm going to check it out and put it on my personal website. Thanks for being the great-vegan that you are…
I was a "bottle fed" baby - what a start in life!
From 1 day old ingesting a "cows milk & other trash" cocktail brewed up by Nestle - then weaned onto a 60's English style diet of burned animals body parts & over-cooked vegetables. My family especially loved "scabs" / dried blood AKA "Black Pudding".
Sometimes I used to worry brain must not have developed fully!
At age 16 George Harrison turned me vegetarian.
Kate Bush, John Peel, The Monty Python team & a few other "greats" helped me to "stay on track"!
I am laughing too today!
Alive & relatively sane (not yet caught by the men in white coats).
(What are Beatles? - US readers can look this up on Wikipedia).
Yeah, I was feed milk when I was a kid and in fact, my family used to try to force me to eat meat. I'd face "the belt" or sitting at the table all night…ughhh! I've been Vegetarian since I was four [time my mom told me I refused to eat it after I found meat came from dead animals].
My family is German and they eat some pretty sick things [i.e. Liverwurst], but Black Pudding [aka Blood Sausage or Blutwurst]?!?!?! Yuck!!! How can anyone eat blood?!?! I couldn't read that whole article on it; it almost made me vomit in my mouth…yuck!
I understand about worrying about your brain not fully developing. I often wonder how things would be had I not been forced to drink milk or anything else related to animals. It's funny when you think of how much control your parents have over you physically and mentally, which in turn dictates your future [e.g. my mom smoked when she was pregnant with me and while I was growing up – I have asthma].
Glad to talk with you on here, keep laughing, keep making me laugh ;), and keep those men in the clean white coats away!
P.S. What does Stig mean? Are you referring to a race car driver?
johnnysensible - that Youtube clip is so refreshing to watch, I have played the whole program now, quite remarkable.
SynthEBM - great name. "Stig" comes from the 60's childrens book "Stig of the Dump" - non-verbal comunication - cave men - mavericks - recyclers etc.
I sometimes miss my "multiple personality disorder"!
Love the forum.
I have a question for the newly converted vegetarians. Right now, I guess I'm considered a pescatarian, since I still eat sushi and a little bit of other fish from time to time (once a week). I will also eat some cheese when having wine, but otherwise have replaced all other dairy with soy based products.
I've been on a fairly regimented vegetarian/vegan diet (my wife went vegan)for about 6 months now, and have lost about 30 needed pounds to bring me back down to my proper weight index.
I've been taking few supplements, as I feel I get most of my nutrition from good organic vegetables, legumes, nuts, and grains.
My question revolves around feeling weak. Months at a time, I seem to be able to do yoga, hold a busy work week, etc. and be fine and then I'll have a week that I'm beat down. Not sure if this is diet related, or just not getting the proper amount of rest?
I've also noticed that I'm far more effected by both alcohol and caffeine, which I hope is a result of running a fairly pure diet through my system with less toxins.
Anybody else experience these up and down engery peaks, and what kinds of foods or other factors do you think helped you balance it out?
Just tired of yo-yo-ing.
gr8vegan's advice could be of benefit to you - "view drmcdougall.com".
This audio is worth listening to - http://www.globaltalkradio.com/ondemand/shows/wakeupamerica/2007Jan08/index.asx -
Go easy with soy based products which are highly processed / modified.
The fish tank - from "Meaning of Life" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1kftCx5-tA
Pescatarian means that Howard's friends will be eaten one by one also!
Perhaps by Mr Creosote (only watch this next clip on an empty stomach)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlK62rjQWLk